Cva wolf patched round ball

Loading and shooting cva caplock muzzleloaders cva sidelock. These are breakaction centerfire rifles and shotguns that come as heavycaliber, lightcaliber, and compact models with a 20inch barrel. The wolf is cvas entry level muzzleloader below the cva optima v2 and accura v2. That rifling twist is too slow to stabilize conical bullets, but its just about perfect for a patched round ball. However, while it is indeed an excellent break action muzzleloader for those who are new to the muzzleloader world, its still a very capable muzzleloader and is not limited to new hunters and will work perfectly for the vast majority of muzzleloader hunters. Purchased some 370 grain maxi balls and will shoot 2f black powder. After that, there seems to be just not enoughspin to get good enough accuracy. Even forgot to unload the powderprojectile until the following hunting season and it fired no problem. My wife picked me up a cva wolf, which probably work fine since i. In fact, this shot created less meat loss than any shot i have made when shooting on pretty much a level plane except for one big doe i head shot at 10 yards with a patched round ball rifle many years ago. I have been successful with 120 grs ffg and a patched ball in a cva mountain rifle because it had a 166 twist and would not shoot anything else.

The thompson center lubricated round ball shooting patches are designed for use on. For elk size game, the rule is 1,000 foot pounds of energy for effective harvest. The wolf also features cvas qrbp quickrelease breech plug the only truly toolfree removal breech plug on the market today. You have to push that round ball pretty hard and 8090 grs is not enough in my experience if you do not put it through the shoulders and hit the spine. For years, i shot a black powder revolver with greased. Below are load recommendations from cva manual32 rifle. Track of the wolf sells patches in different thickness. In my opinion, this is a patched round ball rifle, which produces far less barrel pressures. My jackrabbit load is now 30 grains of alliant mz over a thinpatched round ball seems good out to 5060 yards. My jackrabbit load is now 30 grains of alliant mz over a thin patched round ball seems good out to 5060 yards. The wolf is our most affordable breakaction muzzleloader, but its still packed with features that only cva can offer at its price. My question is this, can i shoot a sphere ball round from a modern rifled muzzleloader.

You can find a variety of cva hunter scope mounts and accessories to use with your firearm. These prelubricated shooting patches are 100% cotton, come in uniform thickness of. My cva wolf is a muzzleloading inline with a 1 in 28 twist. When i went to load the rifle i found the patched bullet to be an extremely tight fit. Now im not sure if the patch gets spun off the ball or if patch and ball just skims the rifling but either way a round ball wont shoot for squat out of a fast twist barrel unless you cut the powder down to an absolute minimum which makes it impractical for most purposes. Cva accura v2 muzzleloading rifle with konuspro 310x 44mm scope 50. Last time i fired patched round balls from my black diamond there was an active duty army nco at the next bench shooting an ar15 at 100 meters. We load one of our precision long rifles with a patched round ball. My first muzzleloader deer came in ny back when only a patched round ball was legal. Wolf blued, black stocks, with konushot 39x32 and case combo. Used a dry patch,round ball and 80 grains of pistol pyrodex in the lyman great plains rifle. S practical use of ballistic data cva sidelock rifle. So 50 grains of 2f powder is a great starting point.

Bought a cva wolf for elk muzzle loading season this year. Patched round ball gun and game the friendliest gun. I expect better groups the more i shoot and get a fee. Precision shooting patches for round ball precision shooting patches. Within typical woods ranges,the accuracy is good enoughwith patched ball under most conditions and the option of using shot puts it in a class all its own. The first ring was undersize and expanded on firing. But, as devastating as the hit appears, none of the backstrap was lost to blood shot. My tc black diamond also shoots patched round balls very accurately.

Cva hunting scope mounts and accessories for sale ebay. Maxiball loads specify the use of maxilub as a lubricant. Loading the plr or muzzleloader with a patched round ball. Cva wolf discussion in black powder shooting muzzleloaders handguns started by rossh, nov 4, 2017. Note that this rifle is designed for use with true black powder and the 1. Another factor which clearly says this is a round ball rifle is the 1in48 twist rate of the rifling. The purpose of this implement is to start a tight fitting ball into the muzzle and to drive it far enough down the barrel so that it. Sightin at 50 yards i sightin any muzzleloader at 50 yards, trying to impact 3 inches above the bullseye.

You have to push that round ball pretty hard and 8090 grs is not enough in my experience if you. The cva wolf rifle is our november 2016 featured muzzleloader. This genteel gyroscopic gem has a sectional density of. I have a cva wolf with the 128 twist barrel in which i shoot. Forget all holes touching about 112 4 groups at 50 yds is what you can expect. While i have never tried it, i am sure that load will be more than enough at that distance. Each ball has a tiny flat, where the sprue was removed. Sep 27, 2012 terribleted senior patrol leader posts. Connecticut valley arms makes the cva hunter rifle models. I chose to start with patched round balls to get a feel for the rifle before i decide if i want to experiment with conical bullets.

Cva blackhorn 209 breech plug ac1611bh for loose powder. Round ball loads specify tc patch material lubricated with tc no. Youre limited to using a patched round ball with the brown bess, but those large bullets hit hard and have plenty of stopping power inside their effective range. Handgun archery muzzleloader and have been planning to use a handgun.

Press round ball with sprue or flat portion facing upward. Was digging around my gun room and found my old muzzleloader box and in it was a brand new box of hornady round balls and a few sabot slugs. Can you put musket balls rather than sabots in a modern day. The second ring was bore size and the third fit the lands. Thought id hedge my bets and ordered in a cva wolf. I have a 50 cal cva 1 in 28 twist that does right wellalmost as good as a sabot. If the above reality check numbers are disappointing to you, you can take some comfort by comparing them to a 177 grain. However those 300gr sabots shoot equally well in all 4 of ours with even that older powder.

Will 1 50 grain pellet kill deer out to 50 yards in a. Grains listed after projectile type represent bullet weight. Round balls do not retain energy well over long distances and are not flexible options for a wide variety of game and shooting conditions. First off, the field observations of your paring modern shotgun slugs to a round ball. Round balls exhibit excellent characteristics of shocking effect, expansion and accuracy. You will have to find a good working load for your particular rifle. The necessity of bore butter is not under emphasized on the cva wolfs and smooth non stop ramming as you might get stuck if bore is not recently cleaned with black sabot skirts. Worked well, though the second ball didnt want to go in so well. My cva wolf is a muzzleloading inline with a 1 in 28. Round ball accuracy at 50 yards in a modern inline muzzleloader. I prefer blackhorn 209 but that requires a different breech plug.

Also get some cleaner, some of the powders are very corrosive. No longer have the muzzleloader and was going to throw them in the melter, but was wondering what hardness they typically are and if they would work for casting boolits. Each ball is perfect, no shrinkage, no sprue, no wrinkles. Most inline muzzleloaders shoot patched round balls very well. Precision made from special tightly woven cotton, to insure uniformity. Each one is different and ive yet to see one that didnt have its. Using your ramrod with a cleaning jag attached, work the patch in everlengthening strokes to the bottom of the barrel.

Because its a roundball, you need to use reduced charges. Loading and shooting cva caplock muzzleloaders cva. My 50 flintlock likes 80 grains of swiss 2f black powder. Like i said in my above post, you can shoot round balls out of the wolf with mild loads, no problem. The wolf is our most affordable breakaction muzzleloader, but its still packed with features that only cva can offer at its price and this year its available with a nitride treated stainless steel barrel. Apr 18, 2019 50 cal muzzleloader with a round ball, is this a good choice for white tailed deer. It will shoot pellets and powerbelts or sabots just fine. Tight patch and ball combination allows for higher velocity. That 148 grain bullet sat over the top of 60 grains of fff. Thats when i remembered that you are supposed to carry a damp rag to run though the barrel between shots. For me, round ball loads tend to shoot higher than point of aim in a revolver and lower than point of aim from a rifle. Precision shooting patches for round ball track of the wolf.

In my thompson white mountain carbine i shot 80 grains of pistol pyrodex and a maxi ball. The ones i looked at were three ring prelube and had a skirt. Hand cast round balls are cast from pure soft lead. It was by far the most accurate load in that gun, and while labeled light by a lot of guys, it killed with alacrity. My understanding of the reason why patched round balls typically do not. Thompson center lubricated round ball shooting patches. Pioneer aka shockleys gold loose fffg did equally bad with 100 grains. Hornady round balls are made in the most popular calibers. Constant thickness, weave, diameter, weight and thread count help eliminate these variables from your shooting.

Round ball accuracy at 50 yards in a modern inline. Aug 18, 2010 you can but you wont get the same accuracy as you will in a rifle with the 1 turn in 66 inches rifling optimized for round balls. If on the other hand you are referring to a patched round ball like we traditionalists shoot, your rifling is way too fast to be accurate with a round ball. Cva wolf the firearms forum the buying, selling or. Pure lead patched round balls will meet all of these standards within limited ranges. A properly patched round ball requires the use of a bullet starter. Bullet weight is one thing you might consider though. Jan 14, 2018 my jackrabbit load is now 30 grains of alliant mz over a thin patched round ball seems good out to 5060 yards. North amrican muzzleloader hunting packs one of the budget priced cva wolf. My cheapo cva stag horn has 2 twist and it shoots prb like a dream. Took it to the range the other day and it shot great. Obviously you can shoot a bare ball but accuracy and velocity will suffer as the patch serves as a. A patched round ball needs a slower twist along the lines of i in 60 to 70.

By toby bridges, north american muzzleloader hunting muzzleloaders have certainly come a long way in a few years. Thanks to the advanced primer ignition systems that form the heart of todays inline rifle designs, shooters and hunters have come to accept 2,000 fps muzzle velocities and 200yard realworld effectiveness as the new norm. For deer hunting and longer range target shooting, ive settled on a 473 gr conical over 90gr. Place this flat spot on top, centered on your muzzle. I started out after a good cleaning, with 90 gr of ffg and ball with patch. From this data, most hunters would properly assume that the maximum effective range of a patched round ball with 90 gr ffg blackpowder fired from a st. Jun 26, 2014 most inline muzzleloaders shoot patched round balls very well. I personally just buy the sabots and have plenty of. Can you put musket balls rather than sabots in a modern. Offered as dry, oiled, wonderlubed, or premium lubed on select sizes. At 100 yards kept the group close to a 34 inch circle. Ive got an old cva that my father built when i was born. Marketing hype junk made for cvas alllegedly skirted 250gr by cva over pyrodex pellets 100gr or 150. The wolf also features cva s qrbp quickrelease breech plug the only truly toolfree removal breech plug on the market today.

I dont have any experience with the wolf, but i shoot a hornady 240 grain xtp. Cva ac1431 ballbullet seater black powdermuzzleloaders. Just dont expect fantastic accuracy since it was made to be a bullet thrower 1. The 100% ambidextrous stocks are available in either black or realtree edge. A round ball doesnt touch the rifling itself, the patch does. The 100% ambidextrous stock are realtree xtra green. Using the short stud of a ball starter, firmly press patched ball just into muzzle.